on this week's show ocean deoxygenation
translation the oceans are actually
suffocating why is this happening what
does it mean to us here on terra firma
and what if anything can we do about it
and what about what comes out of your
faucet but first the teen vaping
epidemic prompted a product ban but the
e-cigarette industry is planning a
comeback
I'm Holland cook in Washington this is
the big picture on Rt America
[Music]
as a fifteen-year-old in Texas became
the 60th known death-related to east
cigarettes and vaping there is good news
and bad news about the teen vaping
epidemic we've been covering all along
the good news is that emergency room
visits related to e-cigarette use have
declined after peaking this past
September when related injuries were
making headlines the bad news is that
the products the administration banned
could be back on the market soon in
January the Food and Drug Administration
banned the manufactured distribution and
sale of cartridge-based fruit or mint
flavored East cigarettes which are
popular among young people but all
menthol and tobacco flavored vapes
remain on sale while the FDA determines
if any flavor of e-cigarette is
justifiable and manufacturers have until
May to submit products for the US Food
and Drug Administration approval the New
York Times reports that President Trump
interrupted a recent meeting with
campaign advisors to scold the Secretary
of Health and Human Services over the
administration's ban on most flavored
East cigarettes according to people
familiar with what was said in the Oval
Office
The Times quotes President Trump as
saying expletive deleted I never should
have done this vaping thing over which
mr. Trump waffled for months but
ultimately endorsed saying we're going
to protect our families were going to
protect our children and we're going to
protect the industry and after meeting
with representatives of the e-cigarette
industry concerned about their industry
and after the president's campaign
manager warned him that the ban could
hurt him come election time with vaping
popular in key states he added that some
banned products could be back on the
market in his words very quickly if
you're a parent should you be screaming
bloody murder to your US Senators and
Representatives let's ask the co-author
of the tobacco dependence treatment
handbook a guide to best practices New
York University professor Raymond nayara
a psychologist and expert on tobacco
dependence and treatment welcome great
to be here you're surrounded by college
kids and if they're going to NYU there
must be smart kids but as a behavioral
scientist you're keenly aware of
susceptibility to trends and the power
of peer pressure how do we tell young
people don't even try it
can we I don't think we can we would be
successful with with that message alone
I think it's it's a good idea to you
know to warn people of the risks and to
educate them so they can make an
educated decision and choice but I think
the real issue is you know how do we
keep these products out of the hands of
you know kids essentially youth
college-age kids they're they're kind of
in that grey zone
right they're not full fledged adults or
some might argue that they are so it's a
lot harder to convey you know
stern messages to them that with the
belief that they'll work well does this
government ban resonate with young
people or perversely does it glamorize
vaping is this the boy that my dad
doesn't want me to go out with yeah I
kind of think that there's been an
overreaction and that the unfortunate
consequence of that is you know it's a
forbidden fruit issue that you know if
you drawing all this attention to a
product you know kids are gonna say well
what's all the fuss about right and you
know they might seek the opportunity to
try it out
other than third grade behind the garage
when we got caught I myself have never
smoked cigarettes so I've not felt the
agony I've seen of others trying to quit
it sure looks like torture are e
cigarettes any easier to walk away from
once you've started I think so
and the reason that I say that is that
they're there they're not like
cigarettes and and I think they're
actually miss miss name they shouldn't
really be called cigarettes they're a
different kind of nicotine delivery
product from what we know from decades
of research the most addictive
of product tobacco product is a
combustible cigarette
I mean hand hands down that wins that
the prize for most addictive and our
research and other people's research
suggests that you know there's some risk
of addiction with these cigarettes but
it's nowhere near what it would be for
regular cigarettes well before all these
emergency-room stories and the vaping
deaths and the ban I would hear on talk
radio carefully worded commercials for
jewel products imply that vaping will
help you kick cigarettes true or false I
think that's true we're waiting for more
of the evidence to come in you know it's
not a complete slam-dunk but you know
the evidence is starting to trickle in
and we're seeing more and more positive
results now I just want to comment on
what I think is a big point of confusion
that that's that's out there now with
regard to the risk of e-cigarettes I
mean you were talking earlier about
pulmonary illnesses deaths emergency
room visits and everything in it as of
recently as last week it's become more
and more clear that those events are
pretty much attributable to adulterated
THC vaping Prada
so it's not the nicotine containing
products that have been implicated but
that message has gotten blurred and and
I think that's a that's you know hugely
important because if you paint you know
all products with the same brush people
are going to get confused and the worst
thing that I've seen happen is cigarette
smokers who successfully switched to
e-cigarettes meaning they quit smoking
are now saying well I don't know about
these these cigarettes because maybe
they're gonna cause pulmonary problems
and right and they go back to smoking
cigarettes big mistake now you mentioned
that THC think warnings we have read
from the Centers for Disease Control and
World Health Organization tell us that
young people who vape are more likely to
smoke conventional cigarettes you've
seen this and we've also read scary
statistics about injury from vaping
products that contain THC the
psychoactive component to cannabis so
analogy as nicotine based vapes are
linked to teen cigarette smoking is
availability of legal weed in many
states now a gateway to THC based vaping
products it's hard to say
I mean it's it's kind of like the Wild
West out there's a new phenomenon with
legalization absolutely and and the the
real fundamental problem with the THC
products that in my opinion is there's
no standardization there's no regulation
and this is the problem this is why
we're seeing you know these THC products
that were cut with vitamins e acetate
which is the culprit and you know who's
who's in charge and and but the the
flipside with Nick the nicotine products
and you mentioned this earlier is well
they actually have to get approved by
the FDA right so what that means is that
the it's the FDA's job to make sure that
these products are safe or reasonably
safe and that's what's happening now and
that's what all the companies are gonna
have to do at least the ones that want
to stay in business is demonstrate to
the FTA listen our products are not
contaminated they are safe to use but
they should be used by cigarette smokers
just hearing me we're an acetate gives
me that creeps
yeah that's pretty scary stuff one of
the recurring red flags in my layman's
reading of all these health warnings we
touched on a moment ago vaping is still
so new that we're short on long term
data and now with a recreational
marijuana being legalized or medicinal
and now in more States than not that's
still a new phenomenon is all of this a
timebomb well it could be but that's
where you know people the the government
regulatory agencies need to get their
act together and say we need to have
some standards we need to have some
regulate the regulatory processes review
processes etc it's happened for tobacco
products thankfully it took forever but
even with tobacco
we're still in the early phases there's
nothing like that out there for you know
cannabis or THC products right New York
University professor Raymond nayara
thank you for stepping into the big
picture my pleasure and if you are the
parent of a teen here's the elevator
speech version of the World Health
Organization warning East cigarettes are
particularly risky for adolescents young
people who vape are more likely to smoke
cigarettes and they're at increased risk
for heart disease and lung disorders and
anyone of any age should know that
pregnant women are vaping for two and
that e-cigarettes can expose bystanders
and that vaping devices have also caused
injury by catching fire or exploding so
before that may deadline for East
cigarette manufacturers to ask the FDA
to re-approach their products and while
members of Congress want us to know that
they can get something done during the
Trump impeachment now is a good time to
suggest what else they can work on as
you are suffering through the perennial
chore due April 15 try not to throw
things at your TV when you hear actual
examples of government waste as you know
the difference between gross income and
take-home pay you will wince when you
hear that we spent almost 6 million
dollars for Columbia University and the
National Science Foundation to create
climate change voicemails from the
future
describing ravages projected from now
until 2065 congressman mo Brooks an
Alabama Republican found two and a half
million to produce the children's
cartoon space racers and across the
aisle and across the state Democratic
Rep Terri Sewell directed a hundred
eighty three thousand seven hundred
fifty dollars to produce virtual reality
to teach children in China how to cross
the street and while every state
confronts the homelessness crisis South
Dakotans mark historic hobo day with a
$12,000 grant secured by congresswoman
nem these are just four of 100 examples
of federal taxpayer abuse compiled by
the nonpartisan watchdog group open the
books calm and with USA deficits and
national debt now measured in trillions
that's 12 zeros some of this stuff seems
extravagant conspiracy theorists might
wonder why Uncle Sam is arming non
military agencies thirteen hundred guns
purchased by the Department of Health
and Human Services included a shotgun
five machine guns and a hundred
eighty-nine firearms with four million
rounds of ammo 3.4 million bought the
Environmental Protection Agency guns
ammo and military equipment and the VA
spent 17 and 1/2 million on 11 million
rounds of ammunition and military-style
equipment if you work in corporate
management you can relate to use it or
lose it money left unspent at the end of
the budget year sends the wrong message
about the coming years fundings and in
the final month of 2018 fiscal year all
federal agencies blew through ninety
seven B billion dollars but the biggest
number we spotted was due to human error
and/or shenanigans a trillion and a half
dollars in mistaken and improper
payments distributed by 20 agencies in
fiscal year 2004 to 2019 if you would
like to join over a hundred thousand
other Americans who object there's a
petition at open the books calm slash
petition should you be inclined to gripe
to your US senators or representative
remember how the game is played they
swap votes on each other's pet projects
what you consider pork is bringing home
the bacon in another district or state
coming up you've seen sad pictures of
fish floating belly-up
why
can't they breathe and how will we
suffer from ocean deoxygenation this is
the big picture on Rt America
translation the oceans are actually
suffocating why is this happening what
does it mean to us here on terra firma
and what if anything can we do about it
and what about what comes out of your
faucet but first the teen vaping
epidemic prompted a product ban but the
e-cigarette industry is planning a
comeback
I'm Holland cook in Washington this is
the big picture on Rt America
[Music]
as a fifteen-year-old in Texas became
the 60th known death-related to east
cigarettes and vaping there is good news
and bad news about the teen vaping
epidemic we've been covering all along
the good news is that emergency room
visits related to e-cigarette use have
declined after peaking this past
September when related injuries were
making headlines the bad news is that
the products the administration banned
could be back on the market soon in
January the Food and Drug Administration
banned the manufactured distribution and
sale of cartridge-based fruit or mint
flavored East cigarettes which are
popular among young people but all
menthol and tobacco flavored vapes
remain on sale while the FDA determines
if any flavor of e-cigarette is
justifiable and manufacturers have until
May to submit products for the US Food
and Drug Administration approval the New
York Times reports that President Trump
interrupted a recent meeting with
campaign advisors to scold the Secretary
of Health and Human Services over the
administration's ban on most flavored
East cigarettes according to people
familiar with what was said in the Oval
Office
The Times quotes President Trump as
saying expletive deleted I never should
have done this vaping thing over which
mr. Trump waffled for months but
ultimately endorsed saying we're going
to protect our families were going to
protect our children and we're going to
protect the industry and after meeting
with representatives of the e-cigarette
industry concerned about their industry
and after the president's campaign
manager warned him that the ban could
hurt him come election time with vaping
popular in key states he added that some
banned products could be back on the
market in his words very quickly if
you're a parent should you be screaming
bloody murder to your US Senators and
Representatives let's ask the co-author
of the tobacco dependence treatment
handbook a guide to best practices New
York University professor Raymond nayara
a psychologist and expert on tobacco
dependence and treatment welcome great
to be here you're surrounded by college
kids and if they're going to NYU there
must be smart kids but as a behavioral
scientist you're keenly aware of
susceptibility to trends and the power
of peer pressure how do we tell young
people don't even try it
can we I don't think we can we would be
successful with with that message alone
I think it's it's a good idea to you
know to warn people of the risks and to
educate them so they can make an
educated decision and choice but I think
the real issue is you know how do we
keep these products out of the hands of
you know kids essentially youth
college-age kids they're they're kind of
in that grey zone
right they're not full fledged adults or
some might argue that they are so it's a
lot harder to convey you know
stern messages to them that with the
belief that they'll work well does this
government ban resonate with young
people or perversely does it glamorize
vaping is this the boy that my dad
doesn't want me to go out with yeah I
kind of think that there's been an
overreaction and that the unfortunate
consequence of that is you know it's a
forbidden fruit issue that you know if
you drawing all this attention to a
product you know kids are gonna say well
what's all the fuss about right and you
know they might seek the opportunity to
try it out
other than third grade behind the garage
when we got caught I myself have never
smoked cigarettes so I've not felt the
agony I've seen of others trying to quit
it sure looks like torture are e
cigarettes any easier to walk away from
once you've started I think so
and the reason that I say that is that
they're there they're not like
cigarettes and and I think they're
actually miss miss name they shouldn't
really be called cigarettes they're a
different kind of nicotine delivery
product from what we know from decades
of research the most addictive
of product tobacco product is a
combustible cigarette
I mean hand hands down that wins that
the prize for most addictive and our
research and other people's research
suggests that you know there's some risk
of addiction with these cigarettes but
it's nowhere near what it would be for
regular cigarettes well before all these
emergency-room stories and the vaping
deaths and the ban I would hear on talk
radio carefully worded commercials for
jewel products imply that vaping will
help you kick cigarettes true or false I
think that's true we're waiting for more
of the evidence to come in you know it's
not a complete slam-dunk but you know
the evidence is starting to trickle in
and we're seeing more and more positive
results now I just want to comment on
what I think is a big point of confusion
that that's that's out there now with
regard to the risk of e-cigarettes I
mean you were talking earlier about
pulmonary illnesses deaths emergency
room visits and everything in it as of
recently as last week it's become more
and more clear that those events are
pretty much attributable to adulterated
THC vaping Prada
so it's not the nicotine containing
products that have been implicated but
that message has gotten blurred and and
I think that's a that's you know hugely
important because if you paint you know
all products with the same brush people
are going to get confused and the worst
thing that I've seen happen is cigarette
smokers who successfully switched to
e-cigarettes meaning they quit smoking
are now saying well I don't know about
these these cigarettes because maybe
they're gonna cause pulmonary problems
and right and they go back to smoking
cigarettes big mistake now you mentioned
that THC think warnings we have read
from the Centers for Disease Control and
World Health Organization tell us that
young people who vape are more likely to
smoke conventional cigarettes you've
seen this and we've also read scary
statistics about injury from vaping
products that contain THC the
psychoactive component to cannabis so
analogy as nicotine based vapes are
linked to teen cigarette smoking is
availability of legal weed in many
states now a gateway to THC based vaping
products it's hard to say
I mean it's it's kind of like the Wild
West out there's a new phenomenon with
legalization absolutely and and the the
real fundamental problem with the THC
products that in my opinion is there's
no standardization there's no regulation
and this is the problem this is why
we're seeing you know these THC products
that were cut with vitamins e acetate
which is the culprit and you know who's
who's in charge and and but the the
flipside with Nick the nicotine products
and you mentioned this earlier is well
they actually have to get approved by
the FDA right so what that means is that
the it's the FDA's job to make sure that
these products are safe or reasonably
safe and that's what's happening now and
that's what all the companies are gonna
have to do at least the ones that want
to stay in business is demonstrate to
the FTA listen our products are not
contaminated they are safe to use but
they should be used by cigarette smokers
just hearing me we're an acetate gives
me that creeps
yeah that's pretty scary stuff one of
the recurring red flags in my layman's
reading of all these health warnings we
touched on a moment ago vaping is still
so new that we're short on long term
data and now with a recreational
marijuana being legalized or medicinal
and now in more States than not that's
still a new phenomenon is all of this a
timebomb well it could be but that's
where you know people the the government
regulatory agencies need to get their
act together and say we need to have
some standards we need to have some
regulate the regulatory processes review
processes etc it's happened for tobacco
products thankfully it took forever but
even with tobacco
we're still in the early phases there's
nothing like that out there for you know
cannabis or THC products right New York
University professor Raymond nayara
thank you for stepping into the big
picture my pleasure and if you are the
parent of a teen here's the elevator
speech version of the World Health
Organization warning East cigarettes are
particularly risky for adolescents young
people who vape are more likely to smoke
cigarettes and they're at increased risk
for heart disease and lung disorders and
anyone of any age should know that
pregnant women are vaping for two and
that e-cigarettes can expose bystanders
and that vaping devices have also caused
injury by catching fire or exploding so
before that may deadline for East
cigarette manufacturers to ask the FDA
to re-approach their products and while
members of Congress want us to know that
they can get something done during the
Trump impeachment now is a good time to
suggest what else they can work on as
you are suffering through the perennial
chore due April 15 try not to throw
things at your TV when you hear actual
examples of government waste as you know
the difference between gross income and
take-home pay you will wince when you
hear that we spent almost 6 million
dollars for Columbia University and the
National Science Foundation to create
climate change voicemails from the
future
describing ravages projected from now
until 2065 congressman mo Brooks an
Alabama Republican found two and a half
million to produce the children's
cartoon space racers and across the
aisle and across the state Democratic
Rep Terri Sewell directed a hundred
eighty three thousand seven hundred
fifty dollars to produce virtual reality
to teach children in China how to cross
the street and while every state
confronts the homelessness crisis South
Dakotans mark historic hobo day with a
$12,000 grant secured by congresswoman
nem these are just four of 100 examples
of federal taxpayer abuse compiled by
the nonpartisan watchdog group open the
books calm and with USA deficits and
national debt now measured in trillions
that's 12 zeros some of this stuff seems
extravagant conspiracy theorists might
wonder why Uncle Sam is arming non
military agencies thirteen hundred guns
purchased by the Department of Health
and Human Services included a shotgun
five machine guns and a hundred
eighty-nine firearms with four million
rounds of ammo 3.4 million bought the
Environmental Protection Agency guns
ammo and military equipment and the VA
spent 17 and 1/2 million on 11 million
rounds of ammunition and military-style
equipment if you work in corporate
management you can relate to use it or
lose it money left unspent at the end of
the budget year sends the wrong message
about the coming years fundings and in
the final month of 2018 fiscal year all
federal agencies blew through ninety
seven B billion dollars but the biggest
number we spotted was due to human error
and/or shenanigans a trillion and a half
dollars in mistaken and improper
payments distributed by 20 agencies in
fiscal year 2004 to 2019 if you would
like to join over a hundred thousand
other Americans who object there's a
petition at open the books calm slash
petition should you be inclined to gripe
to your US senators or representative
remember how the game is played they
swap votes on each other's pet projects
what you consider pork is bringing home
the bacon in another district or state
coming up you've seen sad pictures of
fish floating belly-up
why
can't they breathe and how will we
suffer from ocean deoxygenation this is
the big picture on Rt America
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