alright that brings us to our big story
tonight vaping okay whoa calm down
whenever we start talking about vaping
there's a certain group of people gets
really fired up about it but we'll try
and explain ourselves here this story in
my opinion is all about common sense for
example a teenager can't just go into a
plaid pantry for instance and buy vape
juice don't get in trouble they'll get
busted but online there isn't a cashier
to check their ID or somebody to say hey
you look underage Cristin severance
talked to a mom whose son figured that
out and it's small and it's technology
and it feels cool to them and they can
hide it Jen Dryden figured out her 14
year old son Kenter smart was secretly
vaping after his dad found an invoice
from an online vaping company called all
puffs you know we asked him well why did
you buy it and how did you buy it and he
said you know typical teenager kind of
stuff he said oh it's for a friend and
we said okay trust but verify and then
about a week later his dad went in his
phone and found I would say
conservatively about a hundred videos of
him vaping and it did he did not look
like an amateur let's put it that way
more than one in four high school
students have vaped in the last month
according to the Centers for Disease
Control health officials say social
media played a big part in vaping --zz
popularity among young people
even though social media companies have
cracked down on things like sponsored
vaping posts the hashtag vape has 28
million posts on Instagram the hashtag
vape tricks has 5.4 million posts that's
where users blow vape rings to their
thousands of followers Jen said her son
was no vape influencer but he was far
from a first-timer and when you saw the
videos so was he like doing tricks like
you said he wasn't an amateur no he had
clearly been practicing and doing this
for quite some time I did not look like
someone who had just picked up the vape
pen and started doing it so I mean I
felt like I don't even know who this
person is that I was you know all these
videos I was watching him and I was like
who is my son it was a it was a real
jolt as a mother her son spent the next
three months
and in his bedroom but she said that
punishment wasn't enough she called all
puffs the Ohio based vaping company and
I said so I want to tell you that my 14
year old bought some product from your
company's website and I'd like to find
out how exactly that happened
so can you you know I had the invoice so
I said can you look up this account
number and explain to me how a 14 year
old is allowed to do that and her first
reaction was well we have an attestation
button on our app and an attestation
button is that little thing that you
push that says yes I verify that I'm
over 18 or over 21 yes no that's all it
is and I said you're not seriously on
the other end of this phone telling me
that that's how you can tell if
someone's of age she said legally that's
all we have to do the woman was right
and Jen was mad especially when she
learned her son bought the vape juice
with a prepaid credit card you just
click and click and buy Jen went online
and found a complaint with the state and
called a bunch of politicians and then I
also said you know I'm gonna call some
people so I called Kate Browns office
and I called Earl blue man hours office
and I called Jeff murkly's office and I
got interns probably or whoever was
picking up the phone and they listened
to my complaint and they said thank you
very much for somebody here but you
didn't feel very hurt and honestly no
Kristen I didn't I I felt like well I
did my part and I didn't think I was
gonna hear anything but someone was
listening organ Attorney General Ellen
Rosenblum this is a huge problem
her office got Jen's complaint contacted
all puffs and now the company can no
longer sell online to anyone in Oregon
again so they've agreed to voluntarily
comply with an agreement that is that
they will not do business in the state
any longer they will not do online sales
business in the state with regard to
e-cigarettes period the end because we
didn't feel that there was any way to
really monitor this age verification
with this company Jen could not believe
this news I was jumping up and down with
ecstasy I mean I was telling all my
friends at work I couldn't believe it I
forwarded it to people I said you're not
gonna believe
happened I kind of felt like like Erin
Brockovich a little bit the state wants
to take that band further so we have
determined that we want to not only go
after individual companies like all
puffs but we want to take a broader
brush policy approach and Rosen Blum
introduced legislation that would ban
all online sales of vaping and east
cigarette products to consumers in
Oregon it's just like the ban of online
sales of cigarettes in this state I
think it's the perfect legislation and
it needs to happen it needs to happen
now and I know that's just for Oregon
but I'd love to see it in every state to
Cristin severance joining us now you
reached out to the company you haven't
heard back no it happens but you have
heard from a lot of people online I will
say vaping stories bring out this
community of people who are willing to
defend this vaping pretty hard on the
internet right I've heard from them I
remember the last vaping story I did go
online look at the YouTube comments
people accused me of working for big
tobacco if only we had that kind of
money so in their defense though people
say that vaping help them quit
cigarettes maybe even save their life
that's true but at the end of the day
this is not that conversation I think we
can all agree that kids should not be
vaping do you think this bill will pass
I do this is just like the cigarette ban
here you can't go online in Oregon and
buy cigarettes and now you won't be able
to buy vaping product all right we'll
see what happens Kristen thank you
tonight vaping okay whoa calm down
whenever we start talking about vaping
there's a certain group of people gets
really fired up about it but we'll try
and explain ourselves here this story in
my opinion is all about common sense for
example a teenager can't just go into a
plaid pantry for instance and buy vape
juice don't get in trouble they'll get
busted but online there isn't a cashier
to check their ID or somebody to say hey
you look underage Cristin severance
talked to a mom whose son figured that
out and it's small and it's technology
and it feels cool to them and they can
hide it Jen Dryden figured out her 14
year old son Kenter smart was secretly
vaping after his dad found an invoice
from an online vaping company called all
puffs you know we asked him well why did
you buy it and how did you buy it and he
said you know typical teenager kind of
stuff he said oh it's for a friend and
we said okay trust but verify and then
about a week later his dad went in his
phone and found I would say
conservatively about a hundred videos of
him vaping and it did he did not look
like an amateur let's put it that way
more than one in four high school
students have vaped in the last month
according to the Centers for Disease
Control health officials say social
media played a big part in vaping --zz
popularity among young people
even though social media companies have
cracked down on things like sponsored
vaping posts the hashtag vape has 28
million posts on Instagram the hashtag
vape tricks has 5.4 million posts that's
where users blow vape rings to their
thousands of followers Jen said her son
was no vape influencer but he was far
from a first-timer and when you saw the
videos so was he like doing tricks like
you said he wasn't an amateur no he had
clearly been practicing and doing this
for quite some time I did not look like
someone who had just picked up the vape
pen and started doing it so I mean I
felt like I don't even know who this
person is that I was you know all these
videos I was watching him and I was like
who is my son it was a it was a real
jolt as a mother her son spent the next
three months
and in his bedroom but she said that
punishment wasn't enough she called all
puffs the Ohio based vaping company and
I said so I want to tell you that my 14
year old bought some product from your
company's website and I'd like to find
out how exactly that happened
so can you you know I had the invoice so
I said can you look up this account
number and explain to me how a 14 year
old is allowed to do that and her first
reaction was well we have an attestation
button on our app and an attestation
button is that little thing that you
push that says yes I verify that I'm
over 18 or over 21 yes no that's all it
is and I said you're not seriously on
the other end of this phone telling me
that that's how you can tell if
someone's of age she said legally that's
all we have to do the woman was right
and Jen was mad especially when she
learned her son bought the vape juice
with a prepaid credit card you just
click and click and buy Jen went online
and found a complaint with the state and
called a bunch of politicians and then I
also said you know I'm gonna call some
people so I called Kate Browns office
and I called Earl blue man hours office
and I called Jeff murkly's office and I
got interns probably or whoever was
picking up the phone and they listened
to my complaint and they said thank you
very much for somebody here but you
didn't feel very hurt and honestly no
Kristen I didn't I I felt like well I
did my part and I didn't think I was
gonna hear anything but someone was
listening organ Attorney General Ellen
Rosenblum this is a huge problem
her office got Jen's complaint contacted
all puffs and now the company can no
longer sell online to anyone in Oregon
again so they've agreed to voluntarily
comply with an agreement that is that
they will not do business in the state
any longer they will not do online sales
business in the state with regard to
e-cigarettes period the end because we
didn't feel that there was any way to
really monitor this age verification
with this company Jen could not believe
this news I was jumping up and down with
ecstasy I mean I was telling all my
friends at work I couldn't believe it I
forwarded it to people I said you're not
gonna believe
happened I kind of felt like like Erin
Brockovich a little bit the state wants
to take that band further so we have
determined that we want to not only go
after individual companies like all
puffs but we want to take a broader
brush policy approach and Rosen Blum
introduced legislation that would ban
all online sales of vaping and east
cigarette products to consumers in
Oregon it's just like the ban of online
sales of cigarettes in this state I
think it's the perfect legislation and
it needs to happen it needs to happen
now and I know that's just for Oregon
but I'd love to see it in every state to
Cristin severance joining us now you
reached out to the company you haven't
heard back no it happens but you have
heard from a lot of people online I will
say vaping stories bring out this
community of people who are willing to
defend this vaping pretty hard on the
internet right I've heard from them I
remember the last vaping story I did go
online look at the YouTube comments
people accused me of working for big
tobacco if only we had that kind of
money so in their defense though people
say that vaping help them quit
cigarettes maybe even save their life
that's true but at the end of the day
this is not that conversation I think we
can all agree that kids should not be
vaping do you think this bill will pass
I do this is just like the cigarette ban
here you can't go online in Oregon and
buy cigarettes and now you won't be able
to buy vaping product all right we'll
see what happens Kristen thank you
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